From: matthias_d@gmx.ch (Matthias Duebendorfer)
Subject: 2nd Request for Discussion (RfD): ch.comm
Date: 26 Dec 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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2nd Request for Discussion (RfD)
establishing the unmoderated group ch.comm

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup ch.comm. This is not a Call for
Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are 
below.


NEWSGROUP LINE:

ch.comm      Telecommunication in Switzerland


CHARTER:

This newsgroup is about telecommunication in Switzerland and covers
everything related to it if there is not a special newsgroup covering
the topic. The discussion may cover the following topics:

  - Discussion about different and/or new communication providers
    (telephony, internet access, mobile communications) in
    Switzerland.
  - Announcements of events related to telecommunication such as
    conferences and expositions.
  - Questions and answers about problems with different communication
    providers in Switzerland.
  - Discussion about communication equipement such as telephones and
    mobiles ("handies").
  - Discussion about new communication features.

Please state already in the subject what provider / system you are 
using if the problem you are discussing is related to it.

Please note that for computer communication and networks the group
ch.comp.networks exists. The group ch.comm is less computer related. It 
is strongly discouraged to crosspost between any newsgroups among the 
ch.* hierarchy.


RATIONALE:

With the recent opening of the swiss telecom-market, new communication
providers have been established and many discussions about them arouse
in different groups such as ch.admin and ch.talk. Further, the use of
new communication equipement (such as mobile phones) has become more
common. 

Lacking an appropriate group in the ch.*-hierarchy, questions relating 
to the services of ISP's have often been posted to de.comm.* or 
fr.reseaux.* where they have been left unanswered because the latter 
groups are in fact geographically centered.

The new group ch.comm should provide an appropriate place to
discuss all the related topics. The new sub-hierarchy ch.comm offers 
extensibility for future groups, such as ch.comm.mobile, ch.comm.isdn, 
etc. should the need arise.



PROCEDURE:

This is a Request for Discussion (RfD), not a Call for Votes (CfV). In
this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will
continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting December 6 1999, the day 
the first RFD for this proposal has been posted to ch.admin), after 
which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted, presumably in the first 
week of January 2000. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to ch.admin.


DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

ch.admin
ch.comp
ch.talk

Follow-up to ch.admin


PROPONENT:

Matthias Dübendorfer <matthias_d@gmx.ch>

Based on original RfD by Andreas Aemissegger <aae@bluewin.ch>
Initial idea by Mike Pfaff <blacklotus@datacomm.ch>